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halfsquaretriangles:

missvoltairine:

i feel really really creeped out when Jackson Katz talks about “taking the time to honor women”, does anyone else feel really really creeped out by that, just like, a visceral, skin-crawling sensation

“jackson katz will take time out of his day to honour you whether you like it or not” is the impression i get, which, yuck

Jackson Katz is an actual Scabie

(Source: goforthandagitate)

oh my god and watching Jackson Katz say the exact same things he has been saying for twenty-five years now while his body is actually just falling apart in front of our eyes

it’s terrifying

goforthandagitate:

This link has been all over my dash, I watched it and I think I was like the only one uncomfortable about some of the things this dude said?

“Isn’t your silence a form of consent?” (13:18 min into the video)

This quote, out of context is really fucked up, but even in context I feel like someone who stands up against sexual violence on the daily should, like, never say that silence is a form of consent? Cant you word that differently? I mean, I get the point, refusing to speak out against injustice allows the injustice to continue. I agree. But cant you rephrase that in a way that doesnt make my skin crawl? Because talking to a survivor and saying that silence is consent is BULLSHIT regardless of context 

they literally cannot do ANYTHING right, ever.

I don’t know how many times I have to tell y’all that “beg until they say yes” is not consent but it’s not consent it’s not consent it’s not consent

I also fully 100% agree that the more effective practices in the context of a rapey big 10 campus have been consequence-based platforms (ie, THIS IS ILLEGAL, AND YOU CAN GET KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL) and while I buy that some rape happens ‘cause people fuck up, most rape happens at MSU because everyone knows that you can get away with literally anything if you are a dude at MSU

the only thing that men’s rights consent workshops is teaching college dudes is how to manipulate people into saying yes

and men’s groups (MEN’S, GROUPS) have consistently disregarded the wishes of other groups on campus, including anti-rape groups, survivor groups, lgbtq groups, and (esp) women’s groups, and yet they persisted, they pushed themselves in, and they kept showing up uninvited

you can’t tell me they don’t know what “consent” is, and how to work around it

waltkhadafi:

rgr-pop:

SURELY THAT’S HOW CONSENT WORKS, EXACTLY

Honestly I had a pretty uh not feminist upbringing and I understood consent from when I was like 10 

I don’t buy this men don’t understand consent bullshit really and in the case of MSU I think actual fuckin consequences for people who sexually assault women are a much more effective deterrent than whatever this shit is cause there’s 40k ppl at that school and the RCAH kids are a bunch of dorks who nobody takes seriously at all

Without actual material changes in the way the campus and the city of East Lansing addresses the issues it’s hopelessly naive to expect anything to change

yeah I mean lbr, everyone knows consent workshops operate exclusively to help rapists rape better, COMPASS is full of rapists and I will EAT MY HAT if you prove me wrong but I am almost 100% sure that they are all rapists, and at least in their first gen openly said that none of them were survivors and were consistently confused about the concept that men could be raped, and like, re: structural changes

not to be that way about it but I (and Cortney et al) literally rewrote the university’s sexual harassment policy in order to make it more gender neutral and also to make it so that victims didn’t have to face their rapists in an academic hearing, etc., and also am a survivor ofc, but these motherfuckers showed up and told me I had never contributed to the Conversation About Consent

these are also the men who, at last year’s take back the night, fought to eliminate all women-only spaces (and were successful in doing so) but also fought to save the men-only spaces

it was their platform that women-only spaces were sexist but men-only spaces were important

(I agree that men-only spaces are important but lord)

Conversation About Consenting To Pushing You Off A Cliff